Another play test and Luke was just plain beastly in dispensing with Snoke and Dooku, using IWFNY to dismantle Dooku multiple times and using an A8 MASTER SWEEP on 3 enemies at one point. Following that game, I’ve toned down MASTER SWEEP to just one other enemy, reduced him to 1x IWNFY and upped to 2x LEVITATE, as the latter is his weakest card for sure.

I’m debating if his TURNED AGGRESSION is a more useful card as a D4 or a D0, and I actually think he’s more dangerous if it’s a D0, so I’m going back to D4. With D0, Luke can really punish you for attacking him with minors, or make you discard your entire hand (or at least close to it) if you use an A7 on him, and he has enough defense to get away with letting you selectively damage him.

Also, with the benefit of a tough teammate like Luke, I’ve seen Jyn really shine in multiple games. She doesn’t need a 17th hit point, it only raises her floor for the games where she doesn’t get going, but her ceiling is very high when she does get going, so I need to lower her floor a bit with only 16 HP.

I saw 2 play tests with Luke, Snoke, Sora Bulq, and Rey.

Luke was awfully tough, almost impossible to bring down. His offense is weak. I saw one game where he got his 2 A7s early and won the game pretty easily. In the second game, it ended up being a draw where Luke had the advantage, but couldn’t find enough damage twice through the deck to end the game outright. He’s very much like original Yoda but a little better, a little more fun. MASTER SWEEP was A6 once, A4 every other time. I think high level opponents would mess him up but I don’t know about that yet. I changed his D4s to D0s to make his deck more interesting – you have to time them right, but they can be devastating, but also devastating to Luke.

The Snoke deck is pretty fun. It actually suits him well in that it’s threatening, but it isn’t really that good. I saw him do 6 damage to Luke at one point with DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR but for the most part, it’s hard to do more than 2-3 damage with it. Still, if you do 3 with it, 3 times, then 2 with FORCE THROW 3 times, that’s 15 damage. It’s hard to pull off though and he struggles with damage in general. He can keep you at 5 cards but not really below that. Snoke isn’t a bad teammate because of his strong minors and damage from a distance, but he’s not a very strong deck by any means.

Jyn actually looked pretty nasty with 17 HP. She won the first game by playing her A10, reshuffling her draw pile, using the HOPE card to get it again, and playing it again. The second game, she had to discard the A10 when she played her D10 to save herself, but ended up surviving a turn with just 1 HP, enough to kill Sora Bulq on her next turn, a huge deal that eliminated Snoke’s chance to get more than a draw (which he did). With her weak minors and heroic nature, I’m going to leave her at 17 HP.

Sora Bulq didn’t get great draws either game but his cards aren’t great either, requiring a large hand to really be effective. He shouldn’t be great but I’m going to change those A4s back to A5s just to give him more of a game. I like his weak battle droids for sure.

Even after making some tweaks, Luke is killing it in every play test. I’m going to try replacing FORCE CONTROL with your ILLUSIONARY STRIKE.

I worry that Luke lacks killing power. MASTER SWEEP could be an A14, but it will be A6 or even A4 much of the time, and other than that, he just has a green deck and weak minors. I probably need to cap MASTER SWEEP and give him something else to hit with, like your ILLUSIONARY STRIKE card or something similar.

I upped it to choosing 2 cards, then tweaked FORCE THROW, so he’s overall a little stronger now. I really don’t think he’s Tier 1 though. He’s just not that dangerous nor that hard to kill.

It fits his character and it fits the theme of the deck and it’s intentionally weaker than INSIGHT so I don’t think it’s a problem, but I’m open to other ideas.

I like that idea. It makes Snoke kind of a bully and gives him a fun combo.

I’m not sure what to do with DEBRIS SWIRL but we need something else.

Just wondering @Jags18 are you the same user who used to be Jagon Fel?

Yeah, we have the Imperial Officer and 4 Storm Troopers deck, have you played it? It’s a laugh, but we only play it once in a while. 5 shooters barely works, I think 5 melee types would be extremely clunky, and would be a better fit for weaker characters than the PGs.

Thanks for the feedback. I haven’t seen this deck a whole lot and it was intended to be weak, and it definitely has played weak, but it was also intended to be at about the level of the Tier 3B bounty hunter decks. 4-LOM and IG-88 each have have 14 HP and their minors have 10 and 11 HP, respectively. If Baze is 10 HP, Chirrut probably needs at least 14 HP to be on their level, maybe 15. I’ll adjust to 15 and see how that goes, if he’s a little better than IG-88 and 4-LOM, that’s ok, as long as they’re still Tier 3B. You can play him with 16 HP if you want, but that’s stronger than I want him to be.

I think Snoke looks strong enough to do most of the dueling on his own. Whatever his minors are, I wouldn’t want them to have any talent cards, but I’ll consider your idea if nothing else comes together for him.

Reads like you’d play a 3-Praetorian Guard deck.

I’m trying to think of a mechanic that would reflect Hux’s character in TLJ; an easily tricked and bullied buffoon who is a threat by merit of the gargantuan firepower at his beck and call and nothing else. (He acts as *something* of a voice of reason in the final battle, but that’s mostly just because of Kylo’s raging obsession with destroying the Falcon and Luke interfering so heavily with the battle plan; Hux may have more tactical smarts than Kylo, but that’s not saying much in the first place *and* Kylo just chokes him into submission whenever he tries to go against Kylo’s command with anything more than a suggestion.)

I’m struggling to think of something, however. Maybe it will come to me in time, but I’ll likely much sooner be putting out decks for Finn/Rose, Poe/BB-8, Kylo and assorted weirdos from other Canon/Legends material than I will be putting out anything for Hux, so… I suppose that’ll be something for other people to take a crack if they care.

I’ll definitely have to concur on this being the least Duels-friendly movie thus far; only one new character was introduced who really inspires card ideas (Rose, who has several moments that could translate fairly well into cards for a Finn/Rose deck), and many of the returning characters prove, well, less than epic (deliberately so). It makes for a good, interesting movie, in my opinion, but not much that would directly translate into a game about people engaging in Epic Duels (besides the incredible throne room fight, which might be my new favorite Star Wars fight, especially if we’re only taking the movies into account; Finn vs Phasma was cool too, but real short, and Kylo vs Luke wasn’t *really* a fight, in spite of great it was).

I do hope someone makes good maps for Snoke’s Throne Room and Crait (and maybe Canto Bight) soon.

Hey good point, I forgot about that moment. Nonetheless, we have lightning in the Palpatine, Sidious and Dooku decks, and I think we need something more original for this deck. Any ideas? I was going to base it off the Saruman deck but ended up going in a different direction with it.

Nice catch. That’s actually the assume “Melee Minor” deck in Deck Designer, I do believe that’s an old version of the Melee Minor before Minor Blue basically became the standard. I’ll fix that up in the next draft, as I’m sure this version isn’t final.

Nothing to feel bad about! I put the question to the Yahoo group and they wanted Smaug. Plus, his inclusion allowed the inclusion of Tauriel, who was worth including, at least from a movie perspective. Besides, who knows if a Giants set will ever come to fruition? If not, at least we have a Smaug.

Hi Luke! Thanks for your interest. Happy to talk Epic Duels any time. Which decks are your favorites?

(To be clear, I’m not suggesting that you add my Sauron deck to the set; it’s more for my own purposes than anything else, though I do want to make it fit in the set power-wise while not making it impossible to beat. It’s also gonna be pretty gimmicky, probably not something you’d want to break out every single game.)

Cool! It is a fun and unique deck. She’s had some great games.

Interesting question, can’t say I’ve seen that happen. The Bultar player almost always puts one token on a relatively safe spot away from the action. I’d almost have to write two more sentences into the card to cover such a case: Maybe once 2 spots get occupied, nobody may occupy the third spot? I think that would be best. If you allow “adjacent to,” one of the tokens, she could teleport to some 27 different spaces on the board.

Hi Jeff! Thanks for your interest. I’ve found it to be a solid deck that feels like Jyn.

We’ve reached a point in time where even Star Wars Minis have become a challenge to come by. I had to hit up a friend of a friend. But if you can find them, the “Old Republic Recruit” makes a great Jyn, and was considered a “Common” figure so shouldn’t cost much. Commandos are easy enough to find as well.

Thanks for the note, sorry I missed it until now, but I did update the Shaak Ti .pdf and I think whatever issue has been resolved. I’m not sure what happened there, the .PDF looked fine prior to upload but something about that process smudged it. Hope that didn’t deter too many people because this is a really good deck, one we play a lot and always have fun with, sort of a classic tough Jedi deck.