I don’t know how attached everyone is to this design, but here’s something I’ve been cooking up as an alternative.

The Balrog: 24 HP, Blue Deck

3x Durin’s Bane
A4*/D4: *When attacking, you may discard a card to add 4 to this card’s attack value. When defending, if the attacker is adjacent they receive 2 damage.

3x Wings of Shadow
Move The Balrog up to 7 spaces. Draw a card.

2x Foe Beyond Any
All characters the Balrog can attack receive 4 damage. You may discard a card to draw a card.

2x Roaring Inferno
Look at the top 5 cards of your draw pile. Put 3 in your hand and discard the rest.

2x Flame Sword
A*: The attack value of this card is equal to the number of cards in your discard pile up to 15.

5x Flames
The Balrog does 1 damage to one character he can attack. Playing this card does not count as an action.

4x Ignite
The Balrog recovers 1 hit point. Playing this card does not count as an action.

Hey Roman,
deck looks very well made like always.
Can you check the download link please? It is not working.

I’ve put together a draft. Let me know your thoughts!

So, I don’t know why I only just now noticed this: Sinbad and Arthur both have Feint and Regroup cards that are only a boost value of 1 in my copy. Is this the same in your copy or am I just the victim of an unlucky printing error?

I’m a huge fan of SWED, the Geektopia decks, and The Mandalorian, so this is as good a time as any to join in the fun. I posted some suggested additions on BGG to build on your fantastic initial ideas here: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2318656/fan-deck-mandalorian
Would love to know your thoughts!

There are plenty of candidates for a Legends expansion; Treebeard (already has a deck), Beorn, Eagles, a Mumakil, The Watcher in the Water, etc. But, I don’t think I’d be hugely interested in either making or playing those decks (except maybe an Eagle deck that poked fun of their Deus Ex Machina status). Galadriel is probably the best choice for another deck, but like you I don’t think I’d play her that often.

I think we have a nice little mini set going and should just stick with finishing the four we have.

I’ve taken this deck for a spin a few times and it’s always under performed. I mean I don’t think it’s a weak deck, but 21 HP plus a red deck, power defense that drains your offense, and no minors equals a relative fragile deck. He looks like he can have a good game what with 6 killing cards, but I don’t know.

Concerning a “Legends” expansion, I’m pretty sure the deck list is set in stone right? (Sauron, Elrond, Isildur, and this guy?) In which case, my Sauron deck is coming along and they are draft forms for all the other decks so what’s the next step?

I’ve got one. This Elrond, though depicts him from his time in the FOTR. This deck shows his wisdom and magic from Arwen’s escape from the Nazgul. This deck also has increased versatility and derives from Sauron and Smaug abilities.
Major: Elrond- 20hp
Blue+ deck
Minors: Horses of Water- 3hp each
Melee deck
Specials:
3000 years of wisdom x2: Draw 2 cards. Move both Water Horses up to 5 spaces each. Move all other allies that have not moved since the start of Elrond’s turn up to 2 spaces each.
Master Strategist x2: EITHER- Grant any ally an immediate action that does not count against their next turn, OR, Force any enemy to discard absolutely any card set. If you searched their draw pile, reshuffle it.
Mithril Plate x2: Def*, the attacker receives no bonuses from their attack. Elrond takes no damage and is exempt from the next attack or special effect applied to him by any enemy.
Horse Geyser x2: Each Horse of Water deals 3 damage to each enemy adjacent. Fire-based enemies and Nazgul and Sauron take +1 damage from this attack. Then, remove both Horses.
Blast of Water x2: Dmg8*, Play face up to attack from range. Defense from Fire-based enemies and Nazgul and Sauron is against this attack, rounded up. Place 2 Water Horses adjacent to the target, reviving any to full health.
Intense Stare x2: Dmg3*, If this attack does damage, the defender’s next turn is skipped.

Horse Geyser and Intense Stare are just comical names. 3000 years chains into Geyser, so the expansion’s theme is still encouraged. I do like Blast of Water and Horse Geyser, but I feel like they are too similar to Smaug’s abilities, however, they do deal bonus damage to certain characters. Master Strategist allows an ally to take a bonus action, symbolizing Elrond’s military knowledge. It also has increased versatility to deal with Smaug if Bard is not an ally; a problem I have witnessed first-hand. The discard absolutely any card set means any cards that are the same, like Smaug’s wings a Hurricane- all of those cards would be discarded, or just his Weak Spot. Intense Stare is one of those cards you save for a rainy day, and the defender cannot do any thing on their next turn, not even move.

I think it’s still too early to put this together.

At minimum, you definitely need Whistling Birds now =]

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Smash Bros – Roman and Brian pick 1st
Baaske Bros – Ian and Erik pick 2nd, getting 2 picks
Round 1 (Smash) – Darth Sidious
Round 2 (Baaske) – Yoda Kashyyk, Darth Vader (tweaked)
R3 Smash – Darth Plagueis, Emperor Palpatine (original)
R4 Baaske – Jedi Hunter Vader, Boba Fett (tweaked, outstanding in these types of games)
Smash – Count Dooku (tweaked), Mace Windu (tweaked)
Baaske – Dark Side Anakin, Anakin Skywalker (original)
Smash – Obi-Wan Kenobi & Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi (original)
Baaske – The Great Jabba, Aayla Secura
Smash – Ki-Adi-Mundi, Luminara Unduli
Baaske – Darth Maul (original), Asajj Ventress
Smash – Luke Skywalker (tweaked), Quinlan Vos
Baaske – Qui-Gon Jinn, Yoda (tweaked)
Smash – Plo Koon, Grand Moff Tarkin
Baaske – Shaak Ti, Bultar Swan
Smash – Jango Fett (tweaked), Kit Fisto
Baaske – Jedi Hunter Grievous, Lando Calrissian
Smash – Han Solo (original), IG-88
Baaske – Nute Gunray, 4-LOM
Smash – Tarfful, Luke Jedi Acolyte
Baaske – Old Ben Kenobi, Durge
Smash – Saesee Tiin

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42 decks! Lol the internet is a weird rabbit hole. Just getting back into some Duels and exploring the rich history again! Thanks for keeping so much of it easily accessible online!

The files associated with Eomer2 and Eomer3 are the same, i.e. Major Basic. Shouldn’t one of them be a Minor Basic?

My brother keeps declaring when he defends with ‘momentous shift’ that he moved on his turn so his defense is a 5. Is this right? Or is he cheating?

I made a couple of tweaks. Let me know what you think!

Hm,
even if you want to keep the name of the card, you could still change the card. Was thinking about what would make sense. Of course drawing is somehow missing from the deck, escpecially if SORRY is changed but I thought about a combo with MAY THE FORCE BE WITH US. Maybe changing SORRY into a big attack that does not count as an action when played after MTFBWU or something similar. So he could make use of the opponent having to drop all basics before his attack. Just an idea…

Hey, really cool to see someone printed off my Kylo and Rey deck. I hope Justin enjoys using it. Love this whole post.

That is so cool, finally a “new” Ackbar deck and even one using Wedge. Can’t wait to play test it!
Love the concept and all the cards, looks really fun and will be a great alternative to my standard Ackbar deck (with Rebel Troops).

The effect of Manxome Foe may be reused by other cards, but the card itself is definitely Alice specific as the name of it comes from “Jabberwocky.”

One thing that I think is really bizarre in your current version is that you can use Calm to power up Sith Rage which seems wrong. Everything else makes sense more or less, but this seems like a big problem. In your current version you can use all three What Must Be Done and then a Calm to power up Sith Rage to an A15. Now I’m less bothered by the fact that its a 15, as it might at least be hard to do, and I’m even more worried by the fact that mechanically that whole combo doesn’t make aesthetic sense.

So once again I’m throwing ideas out there.

Anakin and 3 Clone Troopers (again, 3 works better.)

I’ll go with the same deck you did for now, though I’m curious about the possibility of adding an attack point and subtracting a defense point for aggressive characters, so Leap Away could be a 5/3 with the same effect while Feint would be a 3/1, etc. Something to think about anyways.

x4 Anger- A7 Choose and discard a card, if you can’t, you can’t play this card (or maybe you can, but this should probably be specified anyways.)

x4 Calm- Move Anakin up to 5 spaces. then draw or discard until you have 4 cards in your hand.

x3 Sith Fury- A2 If the attack is completely blocked, it does not count as an action.

x2 What Must Be Done- Move Anakin adjacent to any enemy character without using an action.

x2 Force Choke- Choose an enemy sidekick in Anakin’s zone to receive 3 damage. If there are no enemy sidekicks remaining, choose an enemy hero in Anakin’s zone to receive 1 damage.

x1 You Will Try- D2 After receiving the attackers’ damage, if Anakin is still alive, Anakin does an equal amount of damage to the attacker.

x1 You Underestimate My Power- A9 If the defender is still alive, Anakin cannot play defense cards during the next turn.

Clone Special Cards

x2 Blind Obedience- A2 Draw a Card

I don’t know if this deck is actually better than the other one, but anyways throwing ideas around. I think your current version is a bit defensively strong given Anakin’s proximity as a defensive character, but I also wonder if there can be an equivalent to the “Red” Basic deck as compared to Arthur’s “Blue”

One other idea I want to float is maybe not using weak minors at all. Like perhaps using Elite Clones or generic Jedi or something instead of regular clones. Admittedly this is more of an aesthetic critique than a real mechanical one, but aesthetically the idea of battle droids and clone troopers having the same basic set as a jedi is kind of bizarre. Whereas with elite minors it would maybe make more sense. But maybe you think that’s outweighed by the single hit point and the lack of (or weak) talent cards. Just a thought.

100% that it’s all about the heart of the game.

Not only is stripping the other stuff away great to highlight that experience, but it also makes the whole game more accessible!

But honestly, finding that heart (or at least the /best/ heart) is the key factor in the design process. So don’t feel bad about it having taken a while!

The important thing is that you got there in the end. 🙂

Alrighty, so again I haven’t actually played this, but I’m thinking the defense in this deck is excessive. Mind, I agree Obi Wan should be defensive, but this seems like a LOT. You’ve got x3 D4’s, which you’ve said is the highest defense card in the original game, x3 D6, and a D-All. I realize the D4’s are also A4’s, but that still seems like a lot.

I also think you used a lot of the same mechanics that are used in the Epic Duels Kenobi deck. But I also think there’s some room to explore some things that are new. And also the clones need to have talent cards to fit the basic structure of the original game.

And just a *bit* less defense.

Basically I’m throwing this deck together for fun, with no real experience, but maybe there will be some ideas in it that you’ll like.

General Kenobi with 3 Clone Troopers (3 fits the context of the game better)

Same Basic Deck you used, same special ability.

But for the Talent Cards…

x4 Jedi Attack- A5 After resolving the attack, Kenobi can immediately take a free maneuver action. BOOST: 2

x4 Soresu Defense- D2 You may Boost this defense twice BOOST: 2

x3 Jedi Quickness- Until the end of this turn, increase your Move rating by 1. Draw a Card. Playing this card does not count as an action. BOOST: 2

x2 Do What I Must- A4 If Obi Wan has already damaged the target on this turn the attack value is 7. BOOST: 3

1x HIGH GROUND
D0. DURING COMBAT: General Kenobi takes no damage from the attack.
AFTER COMBAT: If General Kenobi can be in a different zone than the attacker, the attacker takes damage equal to the attack value of the attack card played. (Note this card is the same as your original design.
Does this card not get a boost value? You didn’t include one.)

x1 Bold Move- Move General Kenobi adjacent to any enemy character. Draw 3 Cards. BOOST: 3

x1 The Negotiator- Draw up to 5 cards. Choose an opponent. That opponent may draw up to 2 cards. BOOST: 3

Clone Special Cards

x2 Blind Obedience- A2 Draw a Card

So in this design i more explicitly built Obi Wan’s excellent defense around his boosting mechanic by making the base defense value a little lower, but giving him the opportunity to compound boosting, which would need draw power to support since I know in this game the maximum cards in ones hand is 7.

The clones get the lame 2 copies of A2 just so they can be explicitly weaker than stronger one hit minors, since all the basic cards are the same. That’s really weird but OK.

In my opinion, this is the deck that needs the most redesign. It suffers so badly from everyone’s Feints, and I’ve never won a game with him.

Got the BoL set in the mail today!

Sinbad seems to be the best designed and most effective deck in this set. He is the King of the Comeback, and I’ve used the hand limit of 7 with Riches Beyond Compare to get rid of 2 Voyages I didn’t need just to get stronger faster.

Not sure which of these are questions about the deck, vs how much is just about this game in general. full disclosure, I haven’t played this yet, but just looking at the thing, I’m wondering how much my intuitions match with your experience given that you have played the game.

1: How many hit points are you intending General Kenobi and Dark Anakin to have?

2: When I looked at the game, I noticed that “team minor” sets have either three or four minors at 1 HP each. You seem to have taken the concept of single hit point minors, but only two of them. Just wondering, why did you make that call? Like why not 3 or 4 clone troopers?

3: Do you intend to use the “1 HP for generic minors” for ALL generic minor types? Like will the SBDs and Royal Guards also get only one hit point? Generic jedi minors, if you even use those?

4: This is more of a question about the game in general, than about your set, but do the characters all share a basic set? And how does that work mechanically? (It seems problematic that a blaster armed clone would have the same amount of basic attack and defense power as General Kenobi or Dark Anakin with his lightsaber, unless I’m misunderstanding how this game works.)

5: Related, how hard is it to kill people in this game? Coming from an Epic Duels background, virtually every deck has a lot more offense than defense, in its basic deck (the Blue Deck is 32 points of offense, 24 points of defense, the Red Deck is 38/18, and the Green Deck is only marginally more defense than offense at 28/31, and we all know that its hard to kill a Green Deck with power defense.) Do you find that with the equal offensive and defensive capabilities in the basic deck that its really hard for anything to get killed? And mechanically does it make sense for clone troopers to have 4 defends?

There are a lot of intriguing things about this game, but I wonder how fused basic decks would actually work out. How does it work in your experience?