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		By: Solomon Grundy &#8211; Epic Dueling: Adapting Star Wars Epic Duels for Superheroes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2019 17:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] cool turn around. I&#8217;d also be remiss if I didn&#8217;t give a shout out to Geektopia&#8217;s Darth Plagueis deck, which did the resurrection idea [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] cool turn around. I&#8217;d also be remiss if I didn&#8217;t give a shout out to Geektopia&#8217;s Darth Plagueis deck, which did the resurrection idea [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Freaky Mutant Man		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freaky Mutant Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.geektopiagames.com/games/epic-duels/darth-plagueis-and-apprentice-sidious/comment-page-1/#comment-461&quot;&gt;roman&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, I was a little surprised too; in fact, out of all the LotR decks, the Nazguls seem to get the most play, followed closely by Gandalf, then more distantly by Witch King and Legolas/Gimli (which I think is largely driven by me, they&#039;re among my most common LotR picks). Aragorn and Frodo get shockingly little play (more than other LotR characters, but about only half as much as the aforementioned characters), and I think the Cave Troll sees a lot of people pick it only to realize, no, it isn&#039;t the Balrog (I feel like I get &quot;Where&#039;s Sauron and the Balrog?&quot; an awful lot, if not as much as &quot;Where&#039;s Revan?&quot;). It seems like a number of people (myself included, if we&#039;re being honest) gravitate towards the decks that seem weird, including the AT-ST, Officer/4 Stormtroopers, and a Scooby-Doo deck that I made. Never underestimate the appeal of an intriguing weirdo.

Now, as much as I see people go for the Nazguls, for whatever reason I&#039;m struggling to recall how they tend to do. I *think* they to do about average, maybe a little on the weaker side? For what it&#039;s worth, I enjoy playing them myself, though I think that maybe the weakness to female characters on the defense card could be removed without harm to the deck; I don&#039;t recall the Nazguls sharing the Witch King&#039;s weakness, and it&#039;s just kinda frustrating having your power defense be *totally* useless in that situation (I like how the Witch King&#039;s power defense works much more; while weakened against the likes of Eowyn, Arwen, and Shelob, you can still get use out of your power defense if you manage to use it against a 5/1, which I think is important to making that weakness not feel too unfair).

Next time I see Nazguls hit the board, I&#039;ll try to make a note of how they perform.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.geektopiagames.com/games/epic-duels/darth-plagueis-and-apprentice-sidious/comment-page-1/#comment-461">roman</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, I was a little surprised too; in fact, out of all the LotR decks, the Nazguls seem to get the most play, followed closely by Gandalf, then more distantly by Witch King and Legolas/Gimli (which I think is largely driven by me, they&#8217;re among my most common LotR picks). Aragorn and Frodo get shockingly little play (more than other LotR characters, but about only half as much as the aforementioned characters), and I think the Cave Troll sees a lot of people pick it only to realize, no, it isn&#8217;t the Balrog (I feel like I get &#8220;Where&#8217;s Sauron and the Balrog?&#8221; an awful lot, if not as much as &#8220;Where&#8217;s Revan?&#8221;). It seems like a number of people (myself included, if we&#8217;re being honest) gravitate towards the decks that seem weird, including the AT-ST, Officer/4 Stormtroopers, and a Scooby-Doo deck that I made. Never underestimate the appeal of an intriguing weirdo.</p>
<p>Now, as much as I see people go for the Nazguls, for whatever reason I&#8217;m struggling to recall how they tend to do. I *think* they to do about average, maybe a little on the weaker side? For what it&#8217;s worth, I enjoy playing them myself, though I think that maybe the weakness to female characters on the defense card could be removed without harm to the deck; I don&#8217;t recall the Nazguls sharing the Witch King&#8217;s weakness, and it&#8217;s just kinda frustrating having your power defense be *totally* useless in that situation (I like how the Witch King&#8217;s power defense works much more; while weakened against the likes of Eowyn, Arwen, and Shelob, you can still get use out of your power defense if you manage to use it against a 5/1, which I think is important to making that weakness not feel too unfair).</p>
<p>Next time I see Nazguls hit the board, I&#8217;ll try to make a note of how they perform.</p>
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		By: roman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.geektopiagames.com/games/epic-duels/darth-plagueis-and-apprentice-sidious/comment-page-1/#comment-460&quot;&gt;Freaky Mutant Man&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for this, I love this kind of info!

I&#039;m surprised people like the Nazgul.  How does it perform?  I&#039;ve only seen it a few times myself and it&#039;s an unconventional design.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.geektopiagames.com/games/epic-duels/darth-plagueis-and-apprentice-sidious/comment-page-1/#comment-460">Freaky Mutant Man</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for this, I love this kind of info!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised people like the Nazgul.  How does it perform?  I&#8217;ve only seen it a few times myself and it&#8217;s an unconventional design.</p>
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		By: Freaky Mutant Man		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freaky Mutant Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.geektopiagames.com/games/epic-duels/darth-plagueis-and-apprentice-sidious/comment-page-1/#comment-459&quot;&gt;roman&lt;/a&gt;.

Once or twice, though it&#039;s been a while since so I can&#039;t really remember the details. I think Plagueis did... okay? I don&#039;t think Sidious got used very well and died before a single DARK ARTS was pulled, but ultimately I think the card did turn the tide for my teammate, allowing him to survive a last-minute onslaught and poke his way to victory against a drained opponent. I believe the teammate was using the LotR Nazguls deck (which seems to be a surprisingly popular pick when I&#039;m playing with random players; the idea of playing a gaggle of Nazguls seems to be fairly appealing to people), while the opponent was using a Frieza (from Dragon Ball Z) deck designed by my brother (the deck in question is quite powerful on paper with a transformation mechanic that powers him way up, but I just kept seeing the same guy repeatedly lose with it for awhile there; this particular game was actually probably his best performance yet, but ultimately he ran out of steam and couldn&#039;t finish off the final, near-death Nazgul). 

In retrospect, it was a fairly memorable game, with my team having to flee across the board, trying to scrounge up the cards to survive Frieza&#039;s powered-up wrath; in this respect, Plagueis played a key role in winning the game, despite Sidious&#039;s early death and ultimately getting killed himself.

Overall, though, I don&#039;t tend to play Plagueis much; most of my games tend to be with some amount of totally new players, and I generally try to pick characters on the weaker end of the spectrum to avoid being too dominant in those cases (though really, I not infrequently end up making boneheaded decisions that get me wiped out early anyway). Plus, as far as character appeal goes, Plagueis just kinda isn&#039;t among my favorite characters; I keep the deck around because it&#039;s an interesting design, and I do contemplate playing him now and again, but I&#039;ll generally end up going with someone else for one reason or another.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.geektopiagames.com/games/epic-duels/darth-plagueis-and-apprentice-sidious/comment-page-1/#comment-459">roman</a>.</p>
<p>Once or twice, though it&#8217;s been a while since so I can&#8217;t really remember the details. I think Plagueis did&#8230; okay? I don&#8217;t think Sidious got used very well and died before a single DARK ARTS was pulled, but ultimately I think the card did turn the tide for my teammate, allowing him to survive a last-minute onslaught and poke his way to victory against a drained opponent. I believe the teammate was using the LotR Nazguls deck (which seems to be a surprisingly popular pick when I&#8217;m playing with random players; the idea of playing a gaggle of Nazguls seems to be fairly appealing to people), while the opponent was using a Frieza (from Dragon Ball Z) deck designed by my brother (the deck in question is quite powerful on paper with a transformation mechanic that powers him way up, but I just kept seeing the same guy repeatedly lose with it for awhile there; this particular game was actually probably his best performance yet, but ultimately he ran out of steam and couldn&#8217;t finish off the final, near-death Nazgul). </p>
<p>In retrospect, it was a fairly memorable game, with my team having to flee across the board, trying to scrounge up the cards to survive Frieza&#8217;s powered-up wrath; in this respect, Plagueis played a key role in winning the game, despite Sidious&#8217;s early death and ultimately getting killed himself.</p>
<p>Overall, though, I don&#8217;t tend to play Plagueis much; most of my games tend to be with some amount of totally new players, and I generally try to pick characters on the weaker end of the spectrum to avoid being too dominant in those cases (though really, I not infrequently end up making boneheaded decisions that get me wiped out early anyway). Plus, as far as character appeal goes, Plagueis just kinda isn&#8217;t among my favorite characters; I keep the deck around because it&#8217;s an interesting design, and I do contemplate playing him now and again, but I&#8217;ll generally end up going with someone else for one reason or another.</p>
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		By: roman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.geektopiagames.com/games/epic-duels/darth-plagueis-and-apprentice-sidious/comment-page-1/#comment-458&quot;&gt;Freaky Mutant Man&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting question.  Obviously, DARK ARTS already breaks the rules of Epic Duels so the rule book probably isn&#039;t going to cover this one.

The Han &amp; Chewie player could conceivably miss his entire turn but nonetheless, once it&#039;s Plagues&#039; turn, he can bring them both back if he has 2 DARK ARTS to play.  It&#039;s a powerful card, I sometimes find the &quot;within one turn&quot; clause annoying but without it, the card&#039;s power would go through the roof.

Just curious, you ever play with this deck?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.geektopiagames.com/games/epic-duels/darth-plagueis-and-apprentice-sidious/comment-page-1/#comment-458">Freaky Mutant Man</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting question.  Obviously, DARK ARTS already breaks the rules of Epic Duels so the rule book probably isn&#8217;t going to cover this one.</p>
<p>The Han &#038; Chewie player could conceivably miss his entire turn but nonetheless, once it&#8217;s Plagues&#8217; turn, he can bring them both back if he has 2 DARK ARTS to play.  It&#8217;s a powerful card, I sometimes find the &#8220;within one turn&#8221; clause annoying but without it, the card&#8217;s power would go through the roof.</p>
<p>Just curious, you ever play with this deck?</p>
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		By: Freaky Mutant Man		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freaky Mutant Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So let&#039;s say Plagueis is on a team with Han &#038; Chewie; in a single turn, both Han &#038; Chewie are killed by a thermal detonator. On Plagueis&#039;s next turn, would he be able to play one or more DARK ARTS to bring back one or both of them, despite the fact that (by my understanding) Han&#039;s player has technically already been eliminated from the game? A short review of the official rules doesn&#039;t seem to provide anything to go off of in this scenario (obviously, given that character revival is not a mechanic in the base game), so this looks to ultimately just come down to personal judgement, but I&#039;m curious to know what the author&#039;s intent here might be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let&#8217;s say Plagueis is on a team with Han &amp; Chewie; in a single turn, both Han &amp; Chewie are killed by a thermal detonator. On Plagueis&#8217;s next turn, would he be able to play one or more DARK ARTS to bring back one or both of them, despite the fact that (by my understanding) Han&#8217;s player has technically already been eliminated from the game? A short review of the official rules doesn&#8217;t seem to provide anything to go off of in this scenario (obviously, given that character revival is not a mechanic in the base game), so this looks to ultimately just come down to personal judgement, but I&#8217;m curious to know what the author&#8217;s intent here might be.</p>
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